Comments on: Column – Does it Single Moms at War to Defend America? http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/ Let’s look at things a little differently.... Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:40:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Bill G http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-1152 Bill G Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:37:56 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-1152 I found this discussion interesting to say the least, I personally have no issues with women serving. The physical standards are different between men and women as I saw one writer point out and she correctly pointed out that it has to do with the physical needs the sex needs to maintain physical tone, also that the requirement were different due to age as well, but the issue (unless I am reading it wrong) is whether women should be serving in the military at all. I for one say “you go ladies!!”. I Was a member of the US Navy and served with both men and women in the early years of my service, there were time I was glad I had a woman backing me up, not because I liked her company and not because she was a woman but because she was a better Sailer and more dependable than most the men I had around me and I needed someone I could trust and count on. At this moment I am A spouse of an Army soldier, my wife's dream was to join the service and I told her to go for it, she is one of the most respected soldiers in her company due to her hard work, zeal, and attention to details and regulations and she is the one all the CO's and NCO's go to if they need it done, done fast and done right. She has set records at being first at a great many things due to her diligence and she has been put in charge of areas and jobs with in the company to where she is telling higher ranking men and women what to do. I am not tooting my horn or rather her horn, I am proud of my wife, but my point is she is doing the job and excelling at it, better than most of the others men and women alike. Women are fully capable of performing the job as it needs to be done. There are areas of service where women are just not allowed, some have to do with confinement issues such as women serving on submarines ..... I am not going to get into the debate on that. Other areas deal with physical abilities, such as the special forces. Now before you cry foul about that just let me point out that the reason women aren't allowed in those areas is because you women got what you wanted .... equality. Lets take the SEAL Teams for instance, one point about this .... SEAL Team six was started as a anti-terrorist Group as well as a specialty group able to deploy anywhere in the world (unlike the other teams which are assigned to parts of the world). One thing that someone trying out for this team HAD to be able to do was Bench 500 pounds. That standard was for anyone who wanted to be on the team. Women are excluded from this area of operations because they can not meet the minimum physical standards and the standards are not adjusted for anyone. These standards apply because physical strength and endurance required to do the operations are needed. I should point out that because of this there are also age limitations on applying for the Teams and a training program that has to be accomplished before you can even start training as a SEAL. I think if women want to be taken seriously that they must be serious about themselves and the job they do.(short story to make a point) I am 43 my wife is 13 years younger than me and her friend is 22 years younger than me. They do PT everyday and I very rarely exercise except for walking. I own a bowflex Machine and decided to workout on it one day and was doing so when my wife and her friend showed up. They got cocky about me (being an old man) working out, so I challenged them to press what I had been working out with. One couldn't bench it at all the other benched it once but couldn't stabilize it and couldn't do it again ......... my point isn't that they couldn't bench it but rather when I laughed at them they played the sexist card and replied “ your a man I' a woman, men are stronger”. Women, if you want to be an equal and want to be treated with respect do not play the sexist card ever. Men will never take you seriously if you do this, to demand equality and then use you sex as an excuse is setting a double standard and a double message. If the children are a concern .... you need to know the facts before you sound off. Children are effected not by the absence of a parent but by why the parent is absent. Children in the US have more emotional issue over Daddy or Mommy leaving and not knowing why than they do over having Daddy or Mommy leave because they are a soldier. Children are not stupid and a parent leaving and going off to live in another state/town and not calling,writing and visiting sends them a message of not being loved by that parent. A parent going off to war sends them a message that that parent is doing their job and is making the world a better place for them. It is all in how the child perceives the absents of the parent and how those around them reinforce the justness and the love of the parent for the child. In closing I would like to make one statement and Betsy, you may want to write about this someday ..... rather than debate women in a combat role we might want to look at the situation that has evolved considerably over the past few years that soldiers are viewed as unfit parents in family courts due to their service to their country. US soldiers are losing custody of their children because they are deployed, TDY, or PCS or just because they wear the uniform. In some cases the children are going to unfit homes and to a parent who is abusive and has been a danger to the children in the past. I just think it is a shame that Man or Woman steps up to the job to serve our nation and fight if the need ever arises for our freedoms and rights, but to do so they must give up their rights and children ........ if there is no justice in this country then there are not really any freedoms and if there are no freedoms than what are we fighting for? God Bless our service Men and Women! I found this discussion interesting to say the least, I personally have no issues with women serving. The physical standards are different between men and women as I saw one writer point out and she correctly pointed out that it has to do with the physical needs the sex needs to maintain physical tone, also that the requirement were different due to age as well, but the issue (unless I am reading it wrong) is whether women should be serving in the military at all. I for one say “you go ladies!!”. I Was a member of the US Navy and served with both men and women in the early years of my service, there were time I was glad I had a woman backing me up, not because I liked her company and not because she was a woman but because she was a better Sailer and more dependable than most the men I had around me and I needed someone I could trust and count on. At this moment I am A spouse of an Army soldier, my wife’s dream was to join the service and I told her to go for it, she is one of the most respected soldiers in her company due to her hard work, zeal, and attention to details and regulations and she is the one all the CO’s and NCO’s go to if they need it done, done fast and done right. She has set records at being first at a great many things due to her diligence and she has been put in charge of areas and jobs with in the company to where she is telling higher ranking men and women what to do. I am not tooting my horn or rather her horn, I am proud of my wife, but my point is she is doing the job and excelling at it, better than most of the others men and women alike. Women are fully capable of performing the job as it needs to be done.
There are areas of service where women are just not allowed, some have to do with confinement issues such as women serving on submarines ….. I am not going to get into the debate on that. Other areas deal with physical abilities, such as the special forces. Now before you cry foul about that just let me point out that the reason women aren’t allowed in those areas is because you women got what you wanted …. equality. Lets take the SEAL Teams for instance, one point about this …. SEAL Team six was started as a anti-terrorist Group as well as a specialty group able to deploy anywhere in the world (unlike the other teams which are assigned to parts of the world). One thing that someone trying out for this team HAD to be able to do was Bench 500 pounds. That standard was for anyone who wanted to be on the team. Women are excluded from this area of operations because they can not meet the minimum physical standards and the standards are not adjusted for anyone. These standards apply because physical strength and endurance required to do the operations are needed. I should point out that because of this there are also age limitations on applying for the Teams and a training program that has to be accomplished before you can even start training as a SEAL.
I think if women want to be taken seriously that they must be serious about themselves and the job they do.(short story to make a point) I am 43 my wife is 13 years younger than me and her friend is 22 years younger than me. They do PT everyday and I very rarely exercise except for walking. I own a bowflex Machine and decided to workout on it one day and was doing so when my wife and her friend showed up. They got cocky about me (being an old man) working out, so I challenged them to press what I had been working out with. One couldn’t bench it at all the other benched it once but couldn’t stabilize it and couldn’t do it again ……… my point isn’t that they couldn’t bench it but rather when I laughed at them they played the sexist card and replied “ your a man I’ a woman, men are stronger”. Women, if you want to be an equal and want to be treated with respect do not play the sexist card ever. Men will never take you seriously if you do this, to demand equality and then use you sex as an excuse is setting a double standard and a double message.
If the children are a concern …. you need to know the facts before you sound off. Children are effected not by the absence of a parent but by why the parent is absent. Children in the US have more emotional issue over Daddy or Mommy leaving and not knowing why than they do over having Daddy or Mommy leave because they are a soldier. Children are not stupid and a parent leaving and going off to live in another state/town and not calling,writing and visiting sends them a message of not being loved by that parent. A parent going off to war sends them a message that that parent is doing their job and is making the world a better place for them. It is all in how the child perceives the absents of the parent and how those around them reinforce the justness and the love of the parent for the child.
In closing I would like to make one statement and Betsy, you may want to write about this someday ….. rather than debate women in a combat role we might want to look at the situation that has evolved considerably over the past few years that soldiers are viewed as unfit parents in family courts due to their service to their country. US soldiers are losing custody of their children because they are deployed, TDY, or PCS or just because they wear the uniform. In some cases the children are going to unfit homes and to a parent who is abusive and has been a danger to the children in the past. I just think it is a shame that Man or Woman steps up to the job to serve our nation and fight if the need ever arises for our freedoms and rights, but to do so they must give up their rights and children …….. if there is no justice in this country then there are not really any freedoms and if there are no freedoms than what are we fighting for? God Bless our service Men and Women!

]]> By: AnotherBeliever http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-1001 AnotherBeliever Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:28:01 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-1001 I am writing from northern Iraq. It is my second tour. I'm not going to go into arguing the abilities of women in service. We are (on average) smaller, weaker, and slower. Many of us cannot match pace on long marches with lots of gear on our backs. The point has been made again and again. And the conflicts between motherhood and military service are many - this is why many women choose to leave the service if they become pregant or plan to. But it comes to this: we constitute nearly 15% of the force. If you look into particular specialties, like medical or intelligence, we constitute a higher percentage. We are vital to the force. You could not subtract 15% of the force. You could not eliminate a yet higher percentage of individuals in specialties which can require up to 24 months of training. These specialties require very high test scores. Many of them also mandate a very high security clearance, which can take up to 18 months to grant, with exacting standards which eliminate all but the most minor legal and financial infractions. If you subtracted these specialty numbers, at the small unit level, you would see a fifty-man unit drop down to thirty-man unit - insufficient to accomplish the mission. It would literally take years to find and train enough qualified men to take their spot. There are no "front lines" anymore. We women are safer than the guys out on infantry patrols, because on average fewer of us go out with them, from an already small percentage of the total force. But be that as it may, we go out on convoys. Even if we never left the confines of our camp, (and I haven't yet) there are rockets, and mortars, and small arms fire, and other dangers that simply come from being in a high-intensity operations area. My point is this, there isn't some "safe place" you can keep us behind the lines somewhere. And the force can't handle a fifteen percent reduction. Our deployments have been stretched too far, those of us who were due to leave the service find ourselves involuntarily serving another year or two because our unit deployed. I guess I turn this all back around on society, as you did. What kind of men and women are we who will not risk anything? Why are we as a society so afraid? Every time I turn on the news, it's Bird Flu this, economic downturn that, school shooter this, Iran is going to nuke us that. Our forefathers (to prove that I am no Nazi-Fem) did not live like this. They were willing to lay down their lives and their sacred honor, to risk their very necks to start this whole thing. Thousands of patriots have taken the same stand, and paid the price. What does it say about our society when a tiny percentage of us still have the cahones to go out and make our stand. There are those of us who realize, in a very real and practical way, and not in theory, that there are things more important than our own lives, and comfort, and safety. Those three things are all that our society revolves around anymore. I posit that as a society we have lost our courage. Maybe part of that IS reflected in the fact that part of the small percentage of people who have chosen to be pro-active, rather than to live in fear, ARE single mothers. Mothers shouldn't have to be away from their kids. Maybe if a few more men and single women would step forward and sign the dotted line, we wouldn't have tour extensions, stop-loss, and single mothers at war. I am writing from northern Iraq. It is my second tour. I’m not going to go into arguing the abilities of women in service. We are (on average) smaller, weaker, and slower. Many of us cannot match pace on long marches with lots of gear on our backs. The point has been made again and again. And the conflicts between motherhood and military service are many – this is why many women choose to leave the service if they become pregant or plan to.

But it comes to this: we constitute nearly 15% of the force. If you look into particular specialties, like medical or intelligence, we constitute a higher percentage. We are vital to the force. You could not subtract 15% of the force. You could not eliminate a yet higher percentage of individuals in specialties which can require up to 24 months of training. These specialties require very high test scores. Many of them also mandate a very high security clearance, which can take up to 18 months to grant, with exacting standards which eliminate all but the most minor legal and financial infractions. If you subtracted these specialty numbers, at the small unit level, you would see a fifty-man unit drop down to thirty-man unit – insufficient to accomplish the mission. It would literally take years to find and train enough qualified men to take their spot.

There are no “front lines” anymore. We women are safer than the guys out on infantry patrols, because on average fewer of us go out with them, from an already small percentage of the total force. But be that as it may, we go out on convoys. Even if we never left the confines of our camp, (and I haven’t yet) there are rockets, and mortars, and small arms fire, and other dangers that simply come from being in a high-intensity operations area.

My point is this, there isn’t some “safe place” you can keep us behind the lines somewhere. And the force can’t handle a fifteen percent reduction. Our deployments have been stretched too far, those of us who were due to leave the service find ourselves involuntarily serving another year or two because our unit deployed.

I guess I turn this all back around on society, as you did. What kind of men and women are we who will not risk anything? Why are we as a society so afraid? Every time I turn on the news, it’s Bird Flu this, economic downturn that, school shooter this, Iran is going to nuke us that. Our forefathers (to prove that I am no Nazi-Fem) did not live like this. They were willing to lay down their lives and their sacred honor, to risk their very necks to start this whole thing. Thousands of patriots have taken the same stand, and paid the price. What does it say about our society when a tiny percentage of us still have the cahones to go out and make our stand. There are those of us who realize, in a very real and practical way, and not in theory, that there are things more important than our own lives, and comfort, and safety.

Those three things are all that our society revolves around anymore.

I posit that as a society we have lost our courage. Maybe part of that IS reflected in the fact that part of the small percentage of people who have chosen to be pro-active, rather than to live in fear, ARE single mothers. Mothers shouldn’t have to be away from their kids. Maybe if a few more men and single women would step forward and sign the dotted line, we wouldn’t have tour extensions, stop-loss, and single mothers at war.

]]> By: USMC http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-983 USMC Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:44:08 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-983 THE VERY NEXT TIME I HEAR OF SOMEONE LIKE AL SHARPTON OR HIS POSSE SUE OR PRESS SOME ONE FOR SAYING CHICKEN OR WATERMELON OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE I WILL TURN THE TABLES. THEY GET AWAY WITH IT AND MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM IT. THE NEXT TIME I GET OFFENDED FROM ANYHTING RACIAL, OR RELIGIOUS I AM SUEING ALSO. BUT INSTEAD OF POCKETING THE MONEY I WILL HELP THE POOR AND HOMELESS OF THIS COUNTRY AND FORM A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION. YOU ARE PRAYING ON OUR FREDDOMS OF SPEACH AND PRESS. THEN NEXT TIME A BLACK MAN ON TV MENTIONS CRAKCER OR ANY WHITE SLANDER I AM SUEING THEM, THE TELEVISION STATION, AND THE PRODUCTION COMPANY. HELL I MIGHT EVEN SUE AL SHARPTON FOR THE SLANDER AND OFFENSIVE COMMENTS. I HAVE RIGHTS TOO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. BUT YOU SIR PREY ON THEM. MAKE MONEY OFF THEM. NOT ANY MORE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THERE OUGHT TO BE A TV OR RADIO SHOW OUT ABOUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IT SHOULD BE RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL AND EVEN ABOUT OFFENSIVE RACIAL SLANDER. THE PROCEEDS GO TO HELP THE POOR IN THIS COUNTRY. NOT SOME WHOLE IN THE WORLD COUNTRY THAT WE BLEW UP IN THE PAST. THAT IS THE ART OF WAR FOR CENTURIES. WHO IS THE BIGGEST AND BADDEST OF THEM ALL. IF YOU GO TO WAR AND WIN DO NOT HELP THEM REBUILD. THAT IS STUPID. ANOTHER STUPID THING IS SOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY FIND IT RUDE AND OFFENSIVE FOR OUR TROPPS AND CIA TO INTERROGATE AND QUESTION SO RUDELY AND BRUTALLY. BUT GUESS WHAT, WHERE U IN NAM OR IRAQ WHEN OUR OWN TROOPS WERE BEING MISTREATED AND THE OTHER COUNTRIES VIOLATED THE LAWS OF WAR RIGHTS OF CAPTURED SOLDIERS. I DID NOT HEAR OR SEE U JUMP UP AND DOWN ABOUT THAT. SO YOU CAN SHUT UP. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY. WHY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE SECRET ORGANIZATIONS CONDUCTING TOP SECRET BUISNESS? BECAUSE WEAK INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU CANT TAKE IT. BUT IT THINGS LIKE THAT WHY THIS COUNTRY USED TO BE AHEAD AND HAD RIGHTS AND WAS GREAT. NOW WE ARE GOING DOWN HILL AND LOSING EVERYTHING. LOSING OUR RIGHTS. YOU ELECTED OFFICIALS TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AND THEY ELECT PEOPLE TO RUN THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP MAKE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT IS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM EITHER STOP VOTING OR RESEARCH WHO U R VOTING FOR MORE CLOSELY. THE VERY NEXT TIME I HEAR OF SOMEONE LIKE AL SHARPTON OR HIS POSSE SUE OR PRESS SOME ONE FOR SAYING CHICKEN OR WATERMELON OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE I WILL TURN THE TABLES. THEY GET AWAY WITH IT AND MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM IT. THE NEXT TIME I GET OFFENDED FROM ANYHTING RACIAL, OR RELIGIOUS I AM SUEING ALSO. BUT INSTEAD OF POCKETING THE MONEY I WILL HELP THE POOR AND HOMELESS OF THIS COUNTRY AND FORM A NON PROFIT ORGANIZATION. YOU ARE PRAYING ON OUR FREDDOMS OF SPEACH AND PRESS. THEN NEXT TIME A BLACK MAN ON TV MENTIONS CRAKCER OR ANY WHITE SLANDER I AM SUEING THEM, THE TELEVISION STATION, AND THE PRODUCTION COMPANY. HELL I MIGHT EVEN SUE AL SHARPTON FOR THE SLANDER AND OFFENSIVE COMMENTS. I HAVE RIGHTS TOO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. BUT YOU SIR PREY ON THEM. MAKE MONEY OFF THEM. NOT ANY MORE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THERE OUGHT TO BE A TV OR RADIO SHOW OUT ABOUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IT SHOULD BE RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL AND EVEN ABOUT OFFENSIVE RACIAL SLANDER. THE PROCEEDS GO TO HELP THE POOR IN THIS COUNTRY. NOT SOME WHOLE IN THE WORLD COUNTRY THAT WE BLEW UP IN THE PAST. THAT IS THE ART OF WAR FOR CENTURIES. WHO IS THE BIGGEST AND BADDEST OF THEM ALL. IF YOU GO TO WAR AND WIN DO NOT HELP THEM REBUILD. THAT IS STUPID. ANOTHER STUPID THING IS SOME PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY FIND IT RUDE AND OFFENSIVE FOR OUR TROPPS AND CIA TO INTERROGATE AND QUESTION SO RUDELY AND BRUTALLY. BUT GUESS WHAT, WHERE U IN NAM OR IRAQ WHEN OUR OWN TROOPS WERE BEING MISTREATED AND THE OTHER COUNTRIES VIOLATED THE LAWS OF WAR RIGHTS OF CAPTURED SOLDIERS. I DID NOT HEAR OR SEE U JUMP UP AND DOWN ABOUT THAT. SO YOU CAN SHUT UP. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE WHAT IS RUINING THIS COUNTRY. WHY DO YOU THINK WE HAVE SECRET ORGANIZATIONS CONDUCTING TOP SECRET BUISNESS? BECAUSE WEAK INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU CANT TAKE IT. BUT IT THINGS LIKE THAT WHY THIS COUNTRY USED TO BE AHEAD AND HAD RIGHTS AND WAS GREAT. NOW WE ARE GOING DOWN HILL AND LOSING EVERYTHING. LOSING OUR RIGHTS. YOU ELECTED OFFICIALS TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AND THEY ELECT PEOPLE TO RUN THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP MAKE THIS COUNTRY WHAT IT IS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM EITHER STOP VOTING OR RESEARCH WHO U R VOTING FOR MORE CLOSELY.

]]> By: USMC http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-982 USMC Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:28:25 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-982 WHAT R WE FEELING SORRY FOR? WOMEN HAVE PROTESTED FOR YEARS ABOUT EQUALITY. NOW U HAVE IT AND DO NOT WANT IT. FEMALE SOLDIERS WANTING TO COME HOME AND DO IN WAR TIME FOR CHRISTMAS. WELL EXCUSE ME BUT LETS JUST POSTPONE THE WAR FOR 1 DAY WHILE U COME HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS. YOU SIGNED THE CONTRACT NOW LIVE UP TO IT. NOT WHEN IT IS CONVIENANT FOR YOU. THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN FAST BECAUSE OF CRAP LIKE THIS.EITHER EARN YOUR PAY OR LEAVE. NO ROOM FOR WEAK INDIVIDULAS. MEN MISS THEIR CHILDREN TOO AT TIMES LIKE THIS. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT BLAME THE OLDER WOMEN IN SOCIETY THAT GOT EQUALITY FOR YOU. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING COMPLAIN ABOUT THE RIGHTS THAT ARE BEING STRIPPED FROM US IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. PEOPLE CAME HERE AND STARTED THIS COUNTRY WITH ARE OLD BELIEFS. SAYING AND THE PLEDGE IN SCHOOL. HAVING IN GOD WE TRUST ON OUR CURRENCY. BUT NOW THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE IMMIGRATED TO OUR COUNTRY THEY FEEL THAT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME BELIEFS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATE AND STOP OURS. I HAVE A BIG HELL NO FOR THAT! YOU COME HERE AND WE GRANTED YOUR ACCEPTANCE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FULLY CONFORM TO OUR WAY OF THINKING. BUT YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT IN RESPECT FOR US LIKE WE DO YOU. WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WE CANNOT SAY PRAYER IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOUR LITTLE ONE? WHAT ABOUT OURS? AND OUR GORVERNMENT AND COURST FELL FOR IT. THE SAME PC EQUALITY CRAP THAT HAS HAPPENED NOW. WE ARE LOOSING WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT DAY BY DAY. SO WHEN WE ARE NOBODY AND OUR COUNTRY GETS WEAKER BY THE DAY REMEMBER I TOLD YOU SO. GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR A WOMAN OR BLACK MAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY. IF I HAD THE FINANCIAL BACKING I WOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND TOTALLY TURN THIS PATHETIC COUNTRY AROUND. OUR FOREFATHERS WOULD ROLE OVER IN THIER GRAVES IF THEY KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING TODAY. A WOMAN WITH RESPECT IS MADE UP THE SAME AS MEN. MAYBE THE LEADERSHIP QUALITIES ARE THERE BUT THE QUICK AND DECISIVE DECISION MAKING IT TAKES TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AND BE GREAT STRONG ARE NOT THERE. WE STRONG LEADERS IN THIS COUNTRY WHO DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TELLIG THE WHINERS TO SHUT UP OR MOVE. REMEMBER YOU CAME HERE, YOU CAN LEAVE THE SAME WAY. AND AN AFRICAN AMERICAN RUNNING THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE EVEN WORSE. YES OBAMA SEEMS NICE AND POLITE BUT WAIT. 200 YEARS OF TORMENT WILL COME OUT AND RAIN DOWN ON THIS COUNTRY. BLACK DID HAVE TO FIGHT HARD FOR EQUALITY AND I AM SORRY FOR THAT. BUT TO KEEP EXPECTING AFTER SO LONG. GET OVER IT. SLAVERY HAPPENED, IT WAS NOT RIGHT BUT IT HAPPENED. WE DID NOT PERFORM THE SELLING OF SLAVES. THEIR OWN PEOPLE FROM AFRICA SOLD OFF THE WEAK MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN FOR MONEY. YOUR PEOPLE TURNED ON YOU, NO ONE ELSE IS AT FAULT FOR THAT BE YOUR ANCESTORS. I KNOW I HAVE STRAYED OFF OF THE BEATEN PATH BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IN THIS WORTHLESS COUNTRY. THIS COUNTRY IN A WHOLE NEEDS TO GRAB EM A PAIR AND USE THEM. THE CEO OF THE FALCONS IS IN TROUBLE NOW FOR SAYING IF MICHAEL VICK EATS CHICKEN AND FRIES IN PRISON HE WILL NOT BE THE SAME ATHLETE WHEN HE GETS OUT. I.E. A FAT SLOB. THAT IS ALL HE MEANT. MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE SIAD HAMBURGER BUT THE POINT IS NOW THE NAACP AND WHOEVER ELSE WILL BE KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR WITH LAWYERS EXPECTING PAYMENT FOR THE HURTFUL REMARKS THAT WERE NOT EVEN MADE ABOUT THEM. THE ONLY PERSON WHO SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IS MICHAEL VICK. QUIT STICKING YOUR NOSE WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG AND WANTING PAYMENT FOR CRAP THAT HAPPENED 200 YEARS AGO. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO TO JOHANNESBURG AND LIVE. FREEDOM OF SPEEC AND PRESS STILL MEAN SOMETHING. IF YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTION THAT YOU AGREED TO ABIDE BY WHILE LIVING HERE, THEN YOU SHOULD EITHER BE SHOT OR MOVE OUT. PEOPLE THIS AND OTHERS IS WHY THIS COUNTRY IS WEAK. TIME FOR CHANGE, TIME FOR BETTER FUTURE FOR ALL OF US. ALL RACES INCLUDED IF YOU CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE. IF NOT YOU NEED TO LEAVE. I WOULD LOVE TO BE PRESIDENT, CRIME WOULD DROP INSTANTANEOUS. NO MORE WAITING ON DEATH ROW FOR 20 YEARS. AND NO MORE USING LETHAL INJECTION. YOU COMMIT A CRIME YOU MUST PAY THE TIME. DIFFERENT PUNISHMENTS FOR DIFFERENT CRIMES. BEING PUT TO DEATH WOULD HAPPEN THE SAME DAY AS THE SENTENCING. PUT FEAR INTO WORTHLESS CRIMINALS AND THEY WILL WALK THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW. RIGHT NOW OUR PRISON SYSTEM IS A JOKE. LETS KEEP FEEDING AND CLOTHING AND LET CRIMINALS GET BIGGER STRONGER AND SMARTER SO THEY CAN HURT MORE OF SOCIETY WHEN THEY GET OUT. A BIG HELL NO! OIL COMPANIES BEWARE. YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY HIGH PRICES FOR OIL, BUT IT IS IN NOW WAY 50-55 DOLLARS PER BARREL. THAT IS WHAT YOU PORTRAY TO THE PUBLIC.MORE LIKE $30 A BARREL. REMEMBER THESE COMPANIES DO BUY IN BULK. WHEN BUYING IN BULK YOU GET A CHEAPER RATE. WITH ALL OF THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY YOU HAVE STREAMLINED THE PRODUCTION OF OIL TO GAS. YES THERE WAS A 1 TIME COST TO IMPLEMENT SAID TECHNOLOGY BUT THAT HAS DONE PAID FOR ITSELF NOW. YOU WILL STOP RIPPING OFF THE PUBLIC. YES IT OK TO MAKE A PROFIT, BUT THAT EXCESSIVE. $50 MILLION A YEAR FOR EXECS A YEAR. RIDICULOUS. DOCTORS THE MILITARY AND OUR HIGH RANKING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NEED TO MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY. NOT PATHETIC OIL PRODUCERS. BUT WE AS CONSUMERS ARE AT FAULT TOO. WE ALLOW THEM TO SALE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE PAY. IF THIS COMPANY WOULD NOT BUY GAS FOR 1 DAY, NOT EVEN GO TO A GAS STATION, IT WOULD CRIPPLE THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SLOW OR STOP PRODUCTION BECAUSE OF EXCESS STOCK. THEN THE PRICE WOULD DROP DRASTICALLY. WE RUN THIS COUNTRY, NOT THEM. WE WORK AND MAKE MONEY AND SPEND IT. WE PAY THEM. IF YOU WANT GAS TO BE CHEAPER TRY IT I PROMISE IT WILL WORK. WE NEED A NATIONAL DO NOT DRIVE DAY. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS. WHAT R WE FEELING SORRY FOR? WOMEN HAVE PROTESTED FOR YEARS ABOUT EQUALITY. NOW U HAVE IT AND DO NOT WANT IT. FEMALE SOLDIERS WANTING TO COME HOME AND DO IN WAR TIME FOR CHRISTMAS. WELL EXCUSE ME BUT LETS JUST POSTPONE THE WAR FOR 1 DAY WHILE U COME HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS. YOU SIGNED THE CONTRACT NOW LIVE UP TO IT. NOT WHEN IT IS CONVIENANT FOR YOU. THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN FAST BECAUSE OF CRAP LIKE THIS.EITHER EARN YOUR PAY OR LEAVE. NO ROOM FOR WEAK INDIVIDULAS. MEN MISS THEIR CHILDREN TOO AT TIMES LIKE THIS. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT BLAME THE OLDER WOMEN IN SOCIETY THAT GOT EQUALITY FOR YOU. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING COMPLAIN ABOUT THE RIGHTS THAT ARE BEING STRIPPED FROM US IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. PEOPLE CAME HERE AND STARTED THIS COUNTRY WITH ARE OLD BELIEFS. SAYING AND THE PLEDGE IN SCHOOL. HAVING IN GOD WE TRUST ON OUR CURRENCY. BUT NOW THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE IMMIGRATED TO OUR COUNTRY THEY FEEL THAT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME BELIEFS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATE AND STOP OURS. I HAVE A BIG HELL NO FOR THAT! YOU COME HERE AND WE GRANTED YOUR ACCEPTANCE. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FULLY CONFORM TO OUR WAY OF THINKING. BUT YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT IN RESPECT FOR US LIKE WE DO YOU. WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WE CANNOT SAY PRAYER IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF YOUR LITTLE ONE? WHAT ABOUT OURS? AND OUR GORVERNMENT AND COURST FELL FOR IT. THE SAME PC EQUALITY CRAP THAT HAS HAPPENED NOW. WE ARE LOOSING WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT DAY BY DAY. SO WHEN WE ARE NOBODY AND OUR COUNTRY GETS WEAKER BY THE DAY REMEMBER I TOLD YOU SO. GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR A WOMAN OR BLACK MAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY. IF I HAD THE FINANCIAL BACKING I WOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND TOTALLY TURN THIS PATHETIC COUNTRY AROUND. OUR FOREFATHERS WOULD ROLE OVER IN THIER GRAVES IF THEY KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING TODAY. A WOMAN WITH RESPECT IS MADE UP THE SAME AS MEN. MAYBE THE LEADERSHIP QUALITIES ARE THERE BUT THE QUICK AND DECISIVE DECISION MAKING IT TAKES TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AND BE GREAT STRONG ARE NOT THERE. WE STRONG LEADERS IN THIS COUNTRY WHO DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TELLIG THE WHINERS TO SHUT UP OR MOVE. REMEMBER YOU CAME HERE, YOU CAN LEAVE THE SAME WAY. AND AN AFRICAN AMERICAN RUNNING THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE EVEN WORSE. YES OBAMA SEEMS NICE AND POLITE BUT WAIT. 200 YEARS OF TORMENT WILL COME OUT AND RAIN DOWN ON THIS COUNTRY. BLACK DID HAVE TO FIGHT HARD FOR EQUALITY AND I AM SORRY FOR THAT. BUT TO KEEP EXPECTING AFTER SO LONG. GET OVER IT. SLAVERY HAPPENED, IT WAS NOT RIGHT BUT IT HAPPENED. WE DID NOT PERFORM THE SELLING OF SLAVES. THEIR OWN PEOPLE FROM AFRICA SOLD OFF THE WEAK MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN FOR MONEY. YOUR PEOPLE TURNED ON YOU, NO ONE ELSE IS AT FAULT FOR THAT BE YOUR ANCESTORS. I KNOW I HAVE STRAYED OFF OF THE BEATEN PATH BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IN THIS WORTHLESS COUNTRY. THIS COUNTRY IN A WHOLE NEEDS TO GRAB EM A PAIR AND USE THEM. THE CEO OF THE FALCONS IS IN TROUBLE NOW FOR SAYING IF MICHAEL VICK EATS CHICKEN AND FRIES IN PRISON HE WILL NOT BE THE SAME ATHLETE WHEN HE GETS OUT. I.E. A FAT SLOB. THAT IS ALL HE MEANT. MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE SIAD HAMBURGER BUT THE POINT IS NOW THE NAACP AND WHOEVER ELSE WILL BE KNOCKING ON HIS DOOR WITH LAWYERS EXPECTING PAYMENT FOR THE HURTFUL REMARKS THAT WERE NOT EVEN MADE ABOUT THEM. THE ONLY PERSON WHO SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IS MICHAEL VICK. QUIT STICKING YOUR NOSE WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG AND WANTING PAYMENT FOR CRAP THAT HAPPENED 200 YEARS AGO. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO TO JOHANNESBURG AND LIVE. FREEDOM OF SPEEC AND PRESS STILL MEAN SOMETHING. IF YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTION THAT YOU AGREED TO ABIDE BY WHILE LIVING HERE, THEN YOU SHOULD EITHER BE SHOT OR MOVE OUT. PEOPLE THIS AND OTHERS IS WHY THIS COUNTRY IS WEAK. TIME FOR CHANGE, TIME FOR BETTER FUTURE FOR ALL OF US. ALL RACES INCLUDED IF YOU CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE. IF NOT YOU NEED TO LEAVE. I WOULD LOVE TO BE PRESIDENT, CRIME WOULD DROP INSTANTANEOUS. NO MORE WAITING ON DEATH ROW FOR 20 YEARS. AND NO MORE USING LETHAL INJECTION. YOU COMMIT A CRIME YOU MUST PAY THE TIME. DIFFERENT PUNISHMENTS FOR DIFFERENT CRIMES. BEING PUT TO DEATH WOULD HAPPEN THE SAME DAY AS THE SENTENCING. PUT FEAR INTO WORTHLESS CRIMINALS AND THEY WILL WALK THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW. RIGHT NOW OUR PRISON SYSTEM IS A JOKE. LETS KEEP FEEDING AND CLOTHING AND LET CRIMINALS GET BIGGER STRONGER AND SMARTER SO THEY CAN HURT MORE OF SOCIETY WHEN THEY GET OUT. A BIG HELL NO! OIL COMPANIES BEWARE. YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY HIGH PRICES FOR OIL, BUT IT IS IN NOW WAY 50-55 DOLLARS PER BARREL. THAT IS WHAT YOU PORTRAY TO THE PUBLIC.MORE LIKE $30 A BARREL. REMEMBER THESE COMPANIES DO BUY IN BULK. WHEN BUYING IN BULK YOU GET A CHEAPER RATE. WITH ALL OF THE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY YOU HAVE STREAMLINED THE PRODUCTION OF OIL TO GAS. YES THERE WAS A 1 TIME COST TO IMPLEMENT SAID TECHNOLOGY BUT THAT HAS DONE PAID FOR ITSELF NOW. YOU WILL STOP RIPPING OFF THE PUBLIC. YES IT OK TO MAKE A PROFIT, BUT THAT EXCESSIVE. $50 MILLION A YEAR FOR EXECS A YEAR. RIDICULOUS. DOCTORS THE MILITARY AND OUR HIGH RANKING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS NEED TO MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY. NOT PATHETIC OIL PRODUCERS. BUT WE AS CONSUMERS ARE AT FAULT TOO. WE ALLOW THEM TO SALE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE PAY. IF THIS COMPANY WOULD NOT BUY GAS FOR 1 DAY, NOT EVEN GO TO A GAS STATION, IT WOULD CRIPPLE THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SLOW OR STOP PRODUCTION BECAUSE OF EXCESS STOCK. THEN THE PRICE WOULD DROP DRASTICALLY. WE RUN THIS COUNTRY, NOT THEM. WE WORK AND MAKE MONEY AND SPEND IT. WE PAY THEM. IF YOU WANT GAS TO BE CHEAPER TRY IT I PROMISE IT WILL WORK. WE NEED A NATIONAL DO NOT DRIVE DAY. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS.

]]> By: Personal Experience http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-981 Personal Experience Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:50:24 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-981 Yes, thanks Proud Vet. And thanks to all the current and past service-men and service-women who make it possible for Americans to freely post their thoughts about controversial subject-matter! Yes, thanks Proud Vet.

And thanks to all the current and past service-men and service-women who make it possible for Americans to freely post their thoughts about controversial subject-matter!

]]> By: SGT Sharon D. Allen http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-980 SGT Sharon D. Allen Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:52:02 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-980 Thank you, Proud Vet. It helps when a male soldier says it. Thank you, Proud Vet. It helps when a male soldier says it.

]]> By: Proud Vet http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-979 Proud Vet Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:58:33 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-979 You state that women are the only ones who can have children. You must not be smart enough to realize that it also takes a man to have children!! I've served with many women, and continue to do so now. The military is a family, and will always be. I will look out for my female counterparts as much as they will lok out for me. I will support them as much as they support me. I will stand side-by-side with them in arms if the need arises. By your way of thinking, women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen!! How wrong you are!! Betsy, WAKE UP!! This IS the real world; women and men VOLUNTEERING to serve to protect your rights to make assinine statements will be here long after you are gone. You state that women are the only ones who can have children. You must not be smart enough to realize that it also takes a man to have children!! I’ve served with many women, and continue to do so now. The military is a family, and will always be. I will look out for my female counterparts as much as they will lok out for me. I will support them as much as they support me. I will stand side-by-side with them in arms if the need arises.

By your way of thinking, women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen!! How wrong you are!!

Betsy, WAKE UP!! This IS the real world; women and men VOLUNTEERING to serve to protect your rights to make assinine statements will be here long after you are gone.

]]> By: Personal Experience Again http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-972 Personal Experience Again Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:57:12 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-972 Ah, but the military exists to fight and (hopefully) win wars AND to advance careers AND for political agenda! It is a reflection of our society and value systems. It always has been and always will be! In the civil war, blacks were often "pushed" to the front lines because our society accepted that a black person's life was less valuable than a white person's. This was a reflection of our societal beliefs at the time. Now, we realize how absurd that belief was! The inclusion of women in the military is a reflection of the way our society is changing. Women are not just weak, helpless creatures that need to be protected, they are perfectly capable of defending themselves and their country (the gun sure helps). Individuals who want to restrict womens' roles in the military are quick to point to the negatives - but there have been many positive changes as well. I don't believe that men have only two choices toward women; hurt them or protect them!? Instead, both genders in a civilized society ought to respect, nurture, support, and if necessary protect others. Ah, but the military exists to fight and (hopefully) win wars AND to advance careers AND for political agenda! It is a reflection of our society and value systems. It always has been and always will be!

In the civil war, blacks were often “pushed” to the front lines because our society accepted that a black person’s life was less valuable than a white person’s. This was a reflection of our societal beliefs at the time. Now, we realize how absurd that belief was!

The inclusion of women in the military is a reflection of the way our society is changing. Women are not just weak, helpless creatures that need to be protected, they are perfectly capable of defending themselves and their country (the gun sure helps). Individuals who want to restrict womens’ roles in the military are quick to point to the negatives – but there have been many positive changes as well.

I don’t believe that men have only two choices toward women; hurt them or protect them!? Instead, both genders in a civilized society ought to respect, nurture, support, and if necessary protect others.

]]> By: Victoria http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-969 Victoria Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:47:46 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-969 Well, as I can say, my ex-husband(the father of my daughter) is dead, and guess what, that makes me all the more ready to go to the US Armed Forces. I will be glad to serve alongside men and women. It is the greatest honor to hold. Are you honestly saying we should just sit back and be full time mothers, weak and not protecto ourselfs? I've come from several abusive relationships. I saw your article in the newspaper and I was outraged to see that they even printed it! People like you disgust me. Yes, as of right now, a woman is the only one that can have children, but it's not like we, or children are in such short supply that the 15-25% of the Armed forces that are women are going to stop having children, or even die, and wind up leaving us in a lack of procreation. I'm 20 and I've had two kids, two marriages, and soon to be two divorces. I dropped out of high school, and I don't have the means to go to college unless I do go to the US. Armed forces. You know the other reasons why I want this honor, to show my daughter she can be/do anything she wants. That she can take any bad situation and turn it around. And heaven forbid, I die. She will know that both her parents died as heros. Protecting her way of life, her ability to make the choices she wants to in her life, and to protect everybody's freedom of choice in the United States, and to help bring peace and our way of life to other parts of the world. I see pictures of the kids over there. The trash they play/live in. I hear horror stories of the people, or parts of people they find murdered(yes women and children too so don't say that they value a woman's life more). The people that they use as bombs. And, it disgusts me. I see and hear about that from friends that are over there and I want to put an end to it. Some, not all women are weaker than men. I know that I could take down my ex-husband who was 5'10" and 150 lbs. I'm only 5 foot nothing and 135 lbs. Tell me I'm weak, and come see what I can bench. Tell me I'm weak and ask my parent's how I've had two kids with out pain meds. Tell me I'm weak and you will see that I'm not. Tell me that I deserve life more than my ex-husband, and no matter how badly our marriage ended, no matter how many wrongs he did to me, and I will tell you. His life was worth more than mine. Any guy/woman who has died in combat their life is worth more than anybody elses. You will probably be asking why. Here is the reason why: They died for your freedom, and the freedom of all the other people in the world. They died tring to bring peace and stability to several areas. I'm not talking about just the Iraqi Freedom KIA's I'm talking about everysingle person in the History of the United States of America who has died for everything that we have today and will have tomorrow. Well, as I can say, my ex-husband(the father of my daughter) is dead, and guess what, that makes me all the more ready to go to the US Armed Forces. I will be glad to serve alongside men and women. It is the greatest honor to hold. Are you honestly saying we should just sit back and be full time mothers, weak and not protecto ourselfs? I’ve come from several abusive relationships. I saw your article in the newspaper and I was outraged to see that they even printed it! People like you disgust me. Yes, as of right now, a woman is the only one that can have children, but it’s not like we, or children are in such short supply that the 15-25% of the Armed forces that are women are going to stop having children, or even die, and wind up leaving us in a lack of procreation. I’m 20 and I’ve had two kids, two marriages, and soon to be two divorces. I dropped out of high school, and I don’t have the means to go to college unless I do go to the US. Armed forces. You know the other reasons why I want this honor, to show my daughter she can be/do anything she wants. That she can take any bad situation and turn it around. And heaven forbid, I die. She will know that both her parents died as heros. Protecting her way of life, her ability to make the choices she wants to in her life, and to protect everybody’s freedom of choice in the United States, and to help bring peace and our way of life to other parts of the world. I see pictures of the kids over there. The trash they play/live in. I hear horror stories of the people, or parts of people they find murdered(yes women and children too so don’t say that they value a woman’s life more). The people that they use as bombs. And, it disgusts me. I see and hear about that from friends that are over there and I want to put an end to it. Some, not all women are weaker than men. I know that I could take down my ex-husband who was 5’10″ and 150 lbs. I’m only 5 foot nothing and 135 lbs. Tell me I’m weak, and come see what I can bench. Tell me I’m weak and ask my parent’s how I’ve had two kids with out pain meds. Tell me I’m weak and you will see that I’m not. Tell me that I deserve life more than my ex-husband, and no matter how badly our marriage ended, no matter how many wrongs he did to me, and I will tell you. His life was worth more than mine. Any guy/woman who has died in combat their life is worth more than anybody elses. You will probably be asking why. Here is the reason why: They died for your freedom, and the freedom of all the other people in the world. They died tring to bring peace and stability to several areas. I’m not talking about just the Iraqi Freedom KIA’s I’m talking about everysingle person in the History of the United States of America who has died for everything that we have today and will have tomorrow.

]]> By: T. Z. Bledsoe http://www.betsysblog.com/wordpress/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/comment-page-1/#comment-962 T. Z. Bledsoe Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:49:10 +0000 http://www.betsysblog.com/2007/12/07/column-does-it-single-moms-at-war-to-defend-america/#comment-962 Thank you for your article on this topic. As we become a courser society, more and more of time proven standards will fall. Clearly, it must have been like so in the earlier years of the decline of Sodom until that city became a pit of only course and perverse ways. No doubt, women there were considered differently than we were taught, when values mattered. Thank you for your article on this topic. As we become a courser society, more and more of time proven standards will fall. Clearly, it must have been like so in the earlier years of the decline of Sodom until that city became a pit of only course and perverse ways. No doubt, women there were considered differently than we were taught, when values mattered.

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